The guy who played Trevor Cleaver in grangehill was at Crystal Palace Convention one year, I walked by him. And I've got the autograph of John Thaw who played Jack Reagan in the Sweeney and Inspector Morse.
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so who have you met who is famous or slightly famous and under what circumstances?
(for the benefit of cross atlantic variations in celebrity - attach a pic and/or explanation of who that celeb is) .
or have you never met anyone even slightly famous but have aspirations to do so!
The guy who played Trevor Cleaver in grangehill was at Crystal Palace Convention one year, I walked by him. And I've got the autograph of John Thaw who played Jack Reagan in the Sweeney and Inspector Morse.
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i don't want to brag, but i have good news!
one of the elders said that i progressed considerably in reading and that after i get baptized, he wants to use me as the brother that reads the paragraphs in the watchtower study.
i went from being frightened of raising my hand to comment, to the possibility of me being the one reading the study for the congregation.
They like to name these chores as 'privileges' so that they seem a great thing to gain and a big thing to lose. I guess reading the watchtower may have some prestige for some. I read at both the group and watchtower study, didnt particularly enjoy the experience, and it was especially bad when I'd forgotton it was my turn and hadn't read through to see if there were any words I didnt know the correct pronunciation or names etc. I remember speed reading the next paragraph while questions were being answered in case anything like that came up and making judgement calls there and then on how I would say it!
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i ask this question because saki said this in another topic:and i would assume that a lot of people on this board left due to this board alone "proving" the lies of the wts.
so, it this true or false?
or is this mostly true or mostly false?
I had already left and for a good while was still a bit unsettled at looking at 'apostate' sites. Eventually I looked things up on the internet that validated how I had been feeling about things, and came across this place and found it was good to talk with like minded people.
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i never even thought of that till i read some of these posts.
i actually met a girl through the internet one time while i was still a witness.
she was on the other side of the country though.
I've met a few from here - just waiting for the dating part to start!
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simon raised an interesting point in my last thread about so many leaving the forum - his point was that the ideal situation would be to move on and leave forums like this one in the past at some point.
agreed.
seems as though cult victims in general - and witnesses in particular - have been taught to divest oneself of the social tangibles needed to make friends and move on.
I think its fair to say that whether you've come from a JW background or not, all people can find it difficult to make friends. Perhaps our background creates an additional difficulty, but the fact that we are all here interacting with former JW's current JW's and people who have never been, shows we have some if not all the ability to be friendly and make friends. Its really about being with people, maybe having a common interest is the key? I guess we need to look at our other interests and see if those could bring us to other people. It sure does take time and confidence to make new friends, especially when most of us have lost family and former friends. My own situation is that I have met some from here which I mail/message, some from work that i'm trying to expand upon. I also have an interest in old VW's and have a few people I know from the shows i've attended, there are clubs for that too which I could join - except I work on the evenings they meet!
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anything in particular?
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Being ashamed to admit I was one!
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does anyone remember that saying from their dub days?
i heard through the family grape vine that is why my marriage is over.....because jehovah was not in it and did not bless it.
it did not upset me them saying this.
I think the third cord is really the Watchtower Society.
Exactly right! Interfering with things they have no right to be involved in! Unfortunately often the WTS is the more dominant partner in the relationship, asserting its wishes on one or both partner, rather than the couple having respect for each other to discuss things between themselves.
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i know this has probably been covered before, if so i apologize for dragging it up again.
1) is it acceptable just because its an accepted pronunciation to call god je-ho-vah
2) should the witnesses constantly be saying jehovah this and jehovah that, as it seems to me to be taking up gods name ( if it is correct ) in a worthless way.
I agree on various points made here, my feeling is that if it were essencial to worship then the name would have been preserved somehow. I think the witnesses have adopted one particular version and because they have named their group with this are kinda stuck with it. They do place a great deal of importance on the name, and yet no one really knows how to say it.
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my parents just got a phone call from a longtime inactive witness who heard from his very active witness wife that they were announced df'd.
we don't know if its it true or not becuase none of us go to meetings anymore and have no inside sources at the hall to tell us (as we are apostates, who would tlak to us????
) the elders have tried a couple times to talk to them but my dad avoids them.
I was invited to attend a judicial meeting - even though I had told the Elder who invited me over 8 months previous I would no longer be attending meetings due to something I disagreed with over a society teaching. I refused to attend and later heard I had been DF. As was already said, they become scared of the knowledge you can gain whilst outside and still being able to talk to people you know.
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i came home today to find my wife crying whilst reading the 'when a loved one leaves jehovah' article.
its been a good few months now and i can appreciate how she feels.
but it just irritates me how my disagreeing with this religion has such a catastrophic effect on our everyday lives.
Really the tears and anguish are caused by the fact that they believe in a system that isnt rational, therefore its constantly fighting against their normal thoughts and feelings. Your wife loves you, yet should see you as disaproved and foolish for turning your back on 'Jehovah', the two thoughts are having a hard time mixing.
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